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First off, I would really like to discourage any posts that arent gonna take this at least mildly serious ~ Juss sayin'

This thread is to just share your space/time physics theories and whatnot, and then proceed to discuss. :)

Mine:

Big Bang Theory #1:

First off, you'll see that I have my own views of certain existing theories. One being about Gravity. To me, gravity is a not just a simple force, but an impressionable barrier that matter presses on to create the force. Think of it like this in two dimensions, rather then three: A trampoline - this is the barrier that matter has an effect on. Now, we place a bowling ball [star] on this trampoline. As you see, the Star creates a dip in this barrier. Now we place a golf ball [planet] on the side of the trampoline. This Planet slowly gets pulled toward the dip created by the star. This is the gravitational relation between two bodies. So, thats how I picture gravity.

Now, imagine a nearingly infinitely dense object being placed on this force. I would suspect, after looking at other barriers [such as light, sound, etc...], that the barrier can be broken. When this barrier gets broken, it would create a dip in the barrier, as well as pour out matter into seemingly nowhere. This would be a black hole. An object so heavy and dense that it pierces the gravitational barrier itself. Now, the matter that seemingly goes nowhere, is really being funneled to another location...a location..BEYOND [<-- I'll get back to this].

Okay, let's flip this barrier over and view it from the other side. You see a hole that matter is coming out of, of seemingly nowhere. This could be a white hole. Matter is going in from one time and space and being spit out into another time and space. This connects two seemingly impossible things in nature in, at least, a mildly logical way.

Now, to to provide more reason to believe in the last two ideas; let's look at the possibility of wormholes. Wormholes transfer matter from one time and space to another. Basically I'm calling black and white holes, wormholes. The reason matter goes in one direction, and not the other, is because, like river rapids, it's horribly difficult to make things go the other direction then the flow. To support the idea of the existence of wormholes, I present this idea: What if there are additional dimensions of space that we, as mere humans, can not recognise or notice. We have the X,Y,Z axis that we can see. The connect the point 0,0,0 to 1,0,0 and 0,1,0 and 0,0,1 and those connect to others as you continue to move in each direction. But, what if there is a pathway connecting 0,0,0 to 7,33,65? Sure, we may not be able to see or recognise the connection, but it's quite possible for two points to be connected by additional dimensions. So, with that, I suggest that there are many, many, many additional dimensions of space connect, potentially, all points to each other.

So, I have described how I think gravity works, black and white holes, and how wormholes may work...but you may be wondering how this works with the big bang. Well, wormholes can connect distant times and spaces, right? Also, it's suggested that black holes outnumber white holes by the tens of thousands. So, I suggest that many black holes may connect to a single white hole. Now, what if, inevitablely, all matter eventually gets funneled into a single white hole in time and space. That after a series of black hole transfers to white hole transfers, it goes to a single, massive white hole. This one may be the BIG BANG. My suggestion is that the big bang was/is a white hole, the first one, in which the contents of it's explosion originated from the matter sucked in by black holes. Maybe it's a mere convenient cycle of matter transfers that ends up with the same result as it goes back in time creating a stable reality. Or, potentially, maybe time does change, but at a a rate in which it cannot catch up to itself and we would never be aware of our newly created past.

Anyway, thats my theory. It's taken alot of thought and I checked up on a few things to make sure I dont have needless conflictions. I you need me to clarify anything, I will gladly do so. Feel free to suggest alternatives to a few of my ideas and even state your own. I'd love to see what you guys think of and could come up with.

This thread look interesting I hope to see more of it.

I have a different theory upon black holes.

Black holes happen when something becomes so dense, it collapses upon itself, right? This collapse makes a rip in the time/space continuum, also right. But, what if instead of ripping into the time/space continuum, which is theoretically impossible, that the collapse opens into a different dimension, a new universe, and stores the matter in a white hole (the opposite of a black hole) in that dimension, until that white hole collapses on itself too, sending all the matter back. And when the white hole turns into a black hole, the previous black hole suddenly collapses again due to sucking in too much matter, and explodes under the pressure. the space where the black hole was regenerates into a white hole, starting the process all over again. The explosion from a black hole in this way could have created the big bang. What do you think?

Strange, Ive always thought differently.
My theory:
The smallest things in the known universe may be tiny strings of energy called, well, energy strings...
If the intence amount of pressure, combined with a small chance of the energy flying along said pressure, into the center of the universe, would create a small electron, and, over billions and trillions of years time, would eventually form a small atom through magnitism and pressure. The insane amount of pressure on this single atom would cause it to burst into many different atoms, over time, collecting more atoms, and would eventually make planets.
As you can see, this may be a "Big Bang" in theory, but there are many others, such as the string theory, which make some sence.
And jose, how did that sentance even scratch the tip of the iceburg on what this subject is about?
And crazy capitan, I see your point, It makes more sence than my pressure thing. lol.

(14-10-2009 01:47 AM)parson Wrote: [ -> ]Strange, Ive always thought differently.
My theory:
The smallest things in the known universe may be tiny strings of energy called, well, energy strings...
If the intence amount of pressure, combined with a small chance of the energy flying along said pressure, into the center of the universe, would create a small electron, and, over billions and trillions of years time, would eventually form a small atom through magnitism and pressure. The insane amount of pressure on this single atom would cause it to burst into many different atoms, over time, collecting more atoms, and would eventually make planets.
As you can see, this may be a "Big Bang" in theory, but there are many others, such as the string theory, which make some sence.

Spoiler:

(man, christians are going to hate this thread...)

And jose, how did that sentance even scratch the tip of the iceburg on what this subject is about?
And crazy capitan, I see your point, It makes more sence than my pressure thing. lol.

Since I'm 13 and I don't know many teories I wanted to see more of them but I didn't saw any other post so I decided to comment.

I could have sworn I posted in this... Guess not.

I think everything sounds pretty plausible, and the wormhole idea could be compared to 'Wave-mechanical tunneling', or the tunnel effect.

Let's say every single dimension has their own magnetic field and every matter in those dimension have their own amount of energy stored. Maybe some of this matter are too active or inactive to stay in their dimension and want to leave it.

This is where the tunnel effect kicks in. Atoms have shells where electrons can circle around the atomic nucleus, and most electrons want to be as close to the nucleus as they can. But, in between those shells, there is nothing and electrons cannot be there at any time. So, in between sheels, there is a barrier.

Electrons still manage to get past the barrier by creating a small hole to pass through and releasing energy (by sending out a photon).

So, if you look at different dimensions as a shell, matter can get to another dimension by releasing energy to create the worm holes. The black and white holes are just a way to get to another dimension. The energy that is released from the matter rips the space open with such force, that it is possible to get to another dimension.

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Oh wow, this was hard. I did not know the English names for most things I said in here :P

Juss to make sure. No one is misinterpreting dimensions of space as alternate dimensions, right? Not what I mean in any sense.

@ Craz: Huh? You can rip through space and time, well, not you, but space and time can be completely distorted. Also your suggestion of matter being transferred and stored in another universe until its eventual transfer back is sort of what I suggested before. I thought I suggested it in my first post, oops. But, I think that if there is multiple universes, there is two...and that's it. But, it kind of sounds like you may be over simplifying it a little, though.

Expanding on the Multiverse theory:

If there were only two universes, they would be polar opposites. HOWEVER, this is an impossibility. Several contradictions would take place; therefore, in order for our reality to stay balanced, more than one alternate universe would have to exist in order to create all possible opposites. For example, if there were only two universes; in the alternate to this one I would: be a girl, hate pokemon, be completely independent from technology, love this generation's music, hate my family, etc. Black holes are like portals to this alternate universe. If a spaceship, in some freak accident, got sucked into a black hole, then the spaceship would enter the alternate universe. Behind it would be a white hole and in front of it would be alternate Earth. But, here comes a contradiction. The spaceship would land but there would be absolutley no live on this alternate Earth. This would contradict the polar opposite in that, in order for there to be total opposites, there would have to be humans. Now, I know what you're thinking, wouldn't humans be on all the alternate planets. NO. They would be diffrent species since in this polar opposite land, there are no humans. Therefore, there has to be more than two alternate universes parallel to each other. There would have to be an alternate universe for every contradiction in the "exact" polar opposite one. Now, not all of these universes can be parallel. Instead, they intersect. Let me explain, when universes are not parallel, they intersect. Where these universes intersect, a black hole forms. If an object enters this black hole, it could go to any of the intersecting universes including the one it's in. It would then go to a white hole in that universe and enter that universe at a point where it is exactly parellet with another. The only way back would be at the same point, but be based on luck. This is my reason for believing that there is more than two universes parallel to each other.

What leads anyone to believe that there is such a thing as an opposite universe? o.o
Another universe, if there is one, would just be another universe, only affect by the matter/energy that ours pumps into it...and thats about it.