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Hey guys, this is something that has been playing on my mind lately. This is the number of problems arising in relation to special needs.

Now firstly let me say I do sympathise for those with genuine special needs - some people I understand have problems which affect their lives such as those who are unable to walk/talk/see etc.. What bugs me is people who may have a miniscule problem and want to milk it.

Here's an example then. I am an autistic - which in my understanding, despite commonly being used as a way for crap parents to cover up for their kids misbehaviour, is actually an issue with the person's social development that means they are unable to communicate properly in certain situations.

I am well aware that there are a number of systems out there to help out with these situations, which I would like to highlight that I do not use. Why?

Because to me, it's not an important part of life that I am missing out on. This is especially because many of these systems have taxpayer funding - so there are MANY more important things the money could be spent on - like funding more important parts of the NHS and stuff like cancer research which I find to be more important than what is essentially getting a kid some friends.

Back to the original cause of parents using special needs labels to cover up their kid's misbehaviour, take a look at this: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/multimedia/...09744a.pdf

I can understand why the guy got arrested and whatnot - physical violence always gets done, and agression is clearly an over the top reaction - but the fact that after being asked to shut their kid up the parents just came back with "well he's autistic" is bloody pathetic. If my family is going somewhere where my "problem" would be a hassle to the public, I use a bit of common sense and just don't go. How goddamn hard is that? The fact that someone is having an issue with your child should be enough to make you tell your child to stop doing what they are doing, and if they don't stop, hit them. Problem sorted.

Of course I am not trying to attack those with genuine conditions and disabilities, but people like this grind my gears something big time.

Feel free to challenge my views as with everything, I just needed somewhere to rant.
Couldn't agree more. I have Asbergers Syndrome, although it isn't as effective as it once was. I'm positive its a mild form of Autism, right?
(09-08-2010 11:41 PM)+ Flame Claw + Wrote: [ -> ]Hey guys, this is something that has been playing on my mind lately. This is the number of problems arising in relation to special needs.

Now firstly let me say I do sympathise for those with genuine special needs - some people I understand have problems which affect their lives such as those who are unable to walk/talk/see etc.. What bugs me is people who may have a miniscule problem and want to milk it.

Here's an example then. I am an autistic - which in my understanding, despite commonly being used as a way for crap parents to cover up for their kids misbehaviour, is actually an issue with the person's social development that means they are unable to communicate properly in certain situations.

I am well aware that there are a number of systems out there to help out with these situations, which I would like to highlight that I do not use. Why?

Because to me, it's not an important part of life that I am missing out on. This is especially because many of these systems have taxpayer funding - so there are MANY more important things the money could be spent on - like funding more important parts of the NHS and stuff like cancer research which I find to be more important than what is essentially getting a kid some friends.

Back to the original cause of parents using special needs labels to cover up their kid's misbehaviour, take a look at this: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/multimedia/...09744a.pdf

I can understand why the guy got arrested and whatnot - physical violence always gets done, and agression is clearly an over the top reaction - but the fact that after being asked to shut their kid up the parents just came back with "well he's autistic" is bloody pathetic. If my family is going somewhere where my "problem" would be a hassle to the public, I use a bit of common sense and just don't go. How goddamn hard is that? The fact that someone is having an issue with your child should be enough to make you tell your child to stop doing what they are doing, and if they don't stop, hit them. Problem sorted.

Of course I am not trying to attack those with genuine conditions and disabilities, but people like this grind my gears something big time.

Feel free to challenge my views as with everything, I just needed somewhere to rant.

Quoted for truth.

I have ADHD and have been placed by my parents into a "special" school for people with mental disabilities, and I resent it intensely because of all that I'm missing out on in life.
I have met many People with problems of the mind, serious, mild and unotisable. A polite man with down syndrome, an eccentric dancer with autism, and my own cousin, a 7 year old kid named Dalton. They were all good people.

I do agree completely with what you say, Flame. The parent should have got up and hushed his kid, not used his "problem" as a way-around.

I'm also upset at the ignorant tone the offender took to an otherwise "sensitive" and taboo topic of mental irregularities. People like this make me sick
Am I the only one without a diagnosed mental illness? Wait, does that even mean anything if I'm not diagnosed? I dunno.

It seems to me that if your child was autistic, you shouldn't just say "He's autistic" without doing anything. I mean, scolding your child and then apologizing, saying "He's autistic" would be perfectly fine. I dunno. I definitely don't condone that guys actions, but maybe we shouldn't judge him. I mean, he wasn't mad at the kid, per se, as he was mad at the father. Maybe he was really very sensitive to that subject normally. We don't know exactly what the conversation was like either. I mean, what if the father of his autistic son said "He's autistic" in an especially enraging manner, whatever that might be. I just don't know. I don't have any experience with autism myself, as I only have an autistic cousin, so I don't know where the fine line between reality and insensitivity lies, so I wouldn't be able to make a fair opinion.
(09-08-2010 11:54 PM)Snookapuss Wrote: [ -> ]Couldn't agree more. I have Asbergers Syndrome, although it isn't as effective as it once was. I'm positive its a mild form of Autism, right?
Same boat, though ADHD here.
I'm insane and proud of it XP

Anyway, I'll have to agree with Parson. He made the best point that resembles my thoughts on this. However, there is the possibility he DID try to calm his kid. I don't know... whatever.
(10-08-2010 12:07 AM)Jose Antonio Nyumi Wrote: [ -> ]I have ADHD and have been placed by my parents into a "special" school for people with mental disabilities, and I resent it intensely because of all that I'm missing out on in life.

Why in god's name are you in a "special" school? I have a lot of friends with ADHD that are in advanced classes in my school.

Anyway, yeah, that guy reacted way too intensely. But Weirdmin made a good point.
When I was younger, I was being bullied by some kid. When my parents complained, the teachers said 'Oh well, he has mental problems', as if that made it okay that he was beating the ever-loving crap out of me every single day.

Don't see what it really has to do with the topic at hand, but there's my experience. But yeah, that guy should have at least tried to control his kid.
(09-08-2010 11:54 PM)Snookapuss Wrote: [ -> ]Couldn't agree more. I have Asbergers Syndrome, although it isn't as effective as it once was. I'm positive its a mild form of Autism, right?

It's not the same thing from a scientific point of view but it has pretty much the same symptoms. So basically, yes :P

(10-08-2010 12:58 AM)Wierdmin Wrote: [ -> ]Am I the only one without a diagnosed mental illness? Wait, does that even mean anything if I'm not diagnosed? I dunno.

Probably mate, there's a syndrome for everything to be honest.
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